Al-Ahli Gaza Hospital
Palestine and Israel
Fri Oct 20 2023 - skadefronAl-Ahli Gaza Hospital airstrike on October 17th
A devastating airstrike struck the densely populated Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza City, raising concerns of nearly 1000 casualties. Palestinian authorities in Gaza accused Israel, asserting it was a deliberate attack, while Israel vehemently denied any involvement. Amidst conflicting claims, discerning the truth has become increasingly challenging. Below is all the available information regarding the incident.
October 17th, 2023
Verified: More than 500 people were killed in an Israeli strike on a hospital in the Gaza Strip, according to the Gaza Ministry of Health.
Verified: The Baptist Hospital in Gaza after being bombed by Israeli warplanes, hundreds of deaths are reported.
The IDF hit a hospital in the Gaza Strip. Local media reported that one attack killed more than 500 people and injured about 600 more.
Six Civilians Killed in Israeli Airstrikes on UN-Run School in al-Maghazi Refugee Camp in Central Gaza: UN Agency for Palestinian Refugees.
"We have reports that more than 500 people were killed": Al Jazeera reports on Israeli airstrike of hospital in central Gaza.
President Abbas declared three days of mourning for the victims of Israeli airstrikes on Al-Ahly Hospital in the Gaza Strip and “for all Palestinian martyrs”.
Some Israeli sources are beginning to share videos of failed rocket launches from previous escalations in Gaza.
"Al Jazeera: The number of people killed at Al Ahly Baptist Hospital, hit by Israeli airstrikes in the Gaza Strip, may exceed 1,000."
"Israel: 'We had previously issued a warning to evacuate Al-Ahli Babtist Hospital and five other hospitals.'"
Distortion of historic facts
Israeli propagandist deletes his first tweet in which he admits Israeli attack on hospital and replaces it with another one blaming the Palestinians for 'killing themselves'
Israel Releases Skyline Live Stream Video as 'Proof' it's Innocent - the footage barely shows the incident
Israel DELETES Video from Post on Social Media it Earlier Claimed was Proof Hamas Behind Hospital Strike
Here's Why Israel Deleted Video
The full stream of the initial video has now been published showing a Hamas rocket being intercepted and falling elsewhere... and then another rocket with a huge explosion appears to hit the hospital.
Lies pulled apart in minutes. The Washington Post has confirmed this footage.
A news channel wrote: Israel's Twitter account surely has a lot of editing to do tonight to accuse Palestinian resistance groups of bombing Baptist Hospital.
The statement above was originally posted with some sort of "video evidence", but the statement was later edited and the video removed.
Al Jazeera filmed the moment the hospital was hit. There is a feeling that they really got fucked up on their own, or that Israel shot down a missile and it got fucked up in the hospital.
Fox News - Initial coverage
BUSTED: Israeli Misinformation Op? Posts 'FAKE' Video of Baptist Hospital Strike in Gaza... Claiming it was Hamas
Remember, Tel Aviv switched off the electricity?, notice the lights on in buildings
A Times of Israel journalist has even said the footage is old. Never trust the ones warning you its 'enemy' is spreading fake news.
The video depicting Hamas shooting its own hospital, was also identified as a 3 year old video, fake
IDF Spox Shares Old Video to Depict Gaza Hospital Strike & Blames Hamas
IDF Blames Palestinian Islamic Jihad Militia for Israeli Rocket Attack on Gaza Hospital
IDF Blames Palestinian Islamic Jihad Militia for Israeli Rocket Attack on Gaza Hospital
WHO statement on attack on Al Ahli Arab Hospital and reported large-scale casualties
WHO strongly condemns the attack on Al Ahli Arab Hospital in the north of the Gaza Strip. The hospital was operational, with patients, health and care givers, and internally displaced people sheltering there. Early reports indicate hundreds of fatalities and injuries.
The hospital was one of 20 in the north of the Gaza Strip facing evacuation orders from the Israeli military. The order for evacuation has been impossible to carry out given the current insecurity, critical condition of many patients, and lack of ambulances, staff, health system bed capacity, and alternative shelter for those displaced.
WHO calls for the immediate active protection of civilians and health care. Evacuation orders must be reversed. International humanitarian law must be abided by, which means health care must be actively protected and never targeted.
Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh:
The US is responsible for Israel's deadly attack on Gaza's Al-Ahli hospital,
He added that the attack confirmed Israel's "brutality" and the extent of its "defeat" following the 7 October Hamas attack.
He also called on Palestinians in the West Bank to "rise up against the Israeli occupation."
Benjamin Netanyahu said that analysis of IDF operational systems shows that terrorists fired rockets in close proximity to Al-Ahli Hospital in the Gaza Strip when it was hit.
"Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza," the prime minister said.
Netanyahu concluded that it was the "barbarian terrorist in Gaza who struck the hospital in Gaza, not the IDF. Whoever brutally kills our children also kills their children," Netanyahu concluded.
There has not been a single war in modern history in which civilians did not become victims of the crossfire - Netanyahu senior adviser Mark Regev
This mentally unhinged animal needs a padded cell and to never be let out in public again.
"Civilians did not become victims of the crossfire" - your war criminal army bombs their homes, then bombs their hospitals and you have the cheek to speak about "crossfire".
Example of posting old videos by Mossad funded accounts on twitter to blame Israel genocide on others.
A little about the position of the Israeli media amid the attack on a civilian hospital in the Gaza Strip
Previously, the pro-Israeli channel announced a “surprise,” but after a rocket killed more than 1000 Palestinians and wounded about 2000 more, all posts were quickly deleted
BBC reporter: "The Israeli military.. have said they are investigating, but its hard to see what else this could be, really, given the size of the explosion, other than an Israeli air strike, or several air strikes"
Footage taken 20 hours before the strike captured many children playing in the courtyard of the Al-Ahli Hospital.
Video analysis suggests a JDAM was used on the hospital.
October 18th, 2023
Here is the official Israel regime's response
"I categorically state that there is no possibility that hundreds of people were killed in this incident.
All developments point to a single casualty.
It took them only two hours to pull these bodies out and lay them out on the grass.... It's unrealistic."
In my estimation, the source of the explosion could certainly have been an unexploded rocket, as the IDF claims, or even an improvised explosive device planted by Hamas, but the whole incident was hyped up beyond recognition by the number of casualties. Everything we see on the Internet from the first photo until two hours after the event does not correspond to a mass casualty incident. That's not what happened there at all."
Al Jazeera reporting live from Khan Younis hospital in Gaza says that Israel has threatened to bomb a building just meters away, Israel army threats with the strike on a building just across the main entrance of another hospital in Gaza strip!
Al Jazeera reporter is "the last man" standing at the hot spot, other journalists and hundreds of civilians have already sought shelter in other areas of the hospital.
Hananya Naftali - His original tweet was not fake. This is his attempt at amending his first deleted tweet.
The IDF publishes a diagram of the Islamic Jihad missile launch that hit Al-Ahly Hospital.
The Israeli army claims that the rocket was launched towards Israel at 18:59, but due to a malfunction a few minutes later it fell on a medical facility.
It was confirmed four days ago that this same hospital was bombed by Israel. So don’t let them pretend they would never do this. As well, Hamas rockets made out of PVC pipe with 20 pound warheads are not realistically blowing up an entire hospital and killing almost 1,000 people. If it was a weapons depot as some Israelis claim, there would not be so many bodies outside without burn marks and secondary explosions would’ve been seen in the videos circulating. Instead, a lot of the bodies we are seeing suggest shrapnel damage and thus are consistent with a JDAM being dropped.
The IDF now says a faulty "Islamic Jihad" rocket is responsible for the hospital bombing and have released this video as proof.
When questioned how a rocket with a relatively small warhead can cause so much damage, the explanation given is that there was a "hidden" ammo depot in the hospital which detonated
Full version of this video is further up in this article.
Israel has released footage of the aftermath of an explosion at a Gaza hospital, claiming that craters from aircraft-dropped bombs are not visible.
The IDF reiterated its stance that a failed Islamic Jihad missile launch was the cause of the explosion.
The former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations says that Palestinian hospitals like Shafa Hospital are their target because they are shelters of Palestinian fighters.
The presenter asks how can we trust your words?
He says that after the occupation of Gaza, we will show you that there was a tunnel under it
The courtyard of the Gaza Baptist Hospital after the horrific massacre by the Zionists.
Israels spin about hospital massacre quickly comes apart
2009: Israel bombed Quds hospital, sniped at fleeing Palestinian civilians (https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/burning-al-quds-one-of-gazas-remaining-functional-hospitals-destroyed-in-israels-war-on-gaza/). Medics had to brave sniper fire to evacuate patients & take them to already full Shifa.
When one lie serves to cover up another lie, the result is an absurd pile of lies.
Consequences of a strike on a hospital in Gaza
Israeli army spokesman to Al-Jazeera: We bombed the hospital garage, but there were no direct hits on the hospital.
Hananya Naftali, This guy is singlehandedly collapsing the Israeli narrative regarding the hospital strike.
Background: Naftali has been worked for the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as part of his digital team for 3 years. Naftali served in the IDF and fought Hamas during Operation Protective Edge (2014)
Israel Bombed Same Gaza Hospital on Oct 14 - Director Even Pleaded to Stop Strikes
Two days ago, Israel targeted the exact same hospital with rockets. (According to director Don Binder).
Images show the extent of the damage in a cancer ward/department.
The World Health Organization also confirmed the 'Baptist' hospital was hit. (Also known as Al Ahli Arab hospital)
But Israel continues to lie that it doesn't strike hospitals.
Israel has Previous for Muddying the Waters After Civilian Deaths
Here are a number of examples of when the IDF or IAF killed civilians and denied it - shifting the blame on to 'terrorists':
2014:
Israeli missiles killed children playing football on a Gazan beach. The IDF blamed "terrorists" operating in the area and claimed they were aiming at a militant's compound. This was false.
2018:
Yassin a-Saradih was shot and beaten to death by the IDF in 2018. Israeli first claimed he was armed with a knife, then he was shot after 'attacking soldiers' - later that he died of tear gas inhalation.
2022:
An Israeli airstrike killed 5 children in Gaza. The IDF initially blamed a misfired Islamic Jihad rocket before - again - quietly admitting it was them.
Let’s Try To Understand the Audio Recording Published by the IDF
So, the audio recording released by the Israeli side, in which two Hamas members allegedly discuss a strike on a hospital in the Gaza Strip, raises many questions. The most important thing is that such files cannot be considered evidence. This is obvious to any sane person. Further, in the Gaza Strip they don’t talk like that. To be completely precise, the first speaker actually speaks in a Palestinian dialect. Doubts crept in about the second one.
To be 100% sure (I am not Palestinian after all), I contacted various people from Palestine. One is actually from Gaza. And asked them to comment on the audio recording. Everyone is unanimous. I am attaching the answer of two Palestinians who speak Russian (they studied here).
One of them noted that the attached translation does not accurately convey the nature of the conversation, and that the recording does not imply that it is a conversation between two Hamas members. How could it not be clear from the video with children in cages that the kids are Israeli, the person filming them is Palestinian, and everything is happening in the Gaza Strip.
The audio recording shows two people, a little shocked, discussing the news and versions of what happened.
Conclusion. It can be assumed that the Israeli side is in a hurry and therefore makes ridiculous mistakes. I believe that if there had been more time, Shin Bet would have had no difficulty in finding two men who spoke good Arabic (Ghazzawi dialect).
Israel's Credibility Drive Which Took "Five Hours" Keeps Turning Up Convenient Intel?
Now the IDF has claimed an increase in the number of rockets falling short in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday - alleging 450 rockets dropped out the sky before reaching Israel since Oct. 7.
Tel Aviv making a lot of effort to prove it wasn't them. Strange they never mentioned it until 500+ people died.
Scenes from the Hospital in Gaza in the morning
The story of the Ali-Ahli Baptist Hospital began October 15th. The hospital was apparently shelled 2 days before the bombing.
Hospital bombing video analysis, Israeli plane in the air.
New footage from the area of the Al-Ahli hospital after the shelling.
According to the latest figures from the Gaza Health Ministry, 471 people were killed and more than 300 injured in the attack on the hospital, most of them women and children. Debris is still being cleared, so these are not final figures.
This is a clear response to the Israeli propaganda argument that there is no crater on the hospital site: the video shows a GBU-32 guided bomb (held by the IDF).
The Evangelical Church of Jerusalem officially blamed Israel for the attack on the Gaza hospital (the hospital was under jurisdiction of The Evangelical Church of Jerusalem).
According to them, the Baptists received three warning calls from Israel before the attack on the hospital.
October 19th, 2023
The WHO has documented 136 Israeli attacks on health care facilities or personnel from 7 to 17 Oct, with 493 people killed and 382 injured in attacks.
Initial assessment for the Al-Alhi Hospital indicates 471 people lost their lives and 342 were injured, including 28 critical injuries.
Israel keeps saying they don't bomb hospitals, here is the evidence they do.
Israel's Version of Hospital Strike Doesn't Add Up - Channel 4 Pulls Apart Inconsistencies, Fake Audio & History of War Propaganda
Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza tragedy video analysis
"Let's examine the evidence around the strike on the Gaza Baptist Hospital and see where it takes us.
Evidence pointing towards Israeli responsibility:
- Israeli aircraft filmed dropping flares and banking away immediately prior to "arrival"
- "Arrival" similar to other known JDAM strikes
- Single, large blast recorded with no secondaries
- Munition precisely struck the center of the hospital parking lot, suggesting it was targeted
- Munition apparently airburst, suggesting a proximity fuze was used
- JDAMs have a proximity fuze setting; to my knowledge Qassam rockets do not
- Israeli officials had demanded the hospital be evacuated
- Israel had conducted strikes near the hospital previously
- Israeli officials initially claimed responsibility
- Israel subsequently released obviously fake material pointing to PIJ responsibility
- The Pentagon only backed Israeli claims (with obvious reluctance) a full day later
- The Israeli military has been caught lying on many occasions previously
- Israeli cutouts pushing an inconsistent alternate defense casting doubt on the number of casualties and extent of damage ("we didn't do it, but even if we did it wasn't as bad as claimed")
Evidence pointing to Palestinian responsibility
- Some Grad-type rockets were launched nearby around the same time
- Hamas and PIJ are terrorist groups that have probably done false flag attacks in the past
- The backlash to this benefited Hamas immensely
So obviously Israel was responsible. In fact some of the "evidence" hastily forwarded to absolve them of responsibility, such as the lack of an obvious crater, is damning to them given that false-flag car bombs or enormous malfunctioning PIJ rocket warheads would in fact leave a substantial one by exploding in contact with the ground."
Damage Gaza vs Israel
Rockets of Palestinian Resistance Groups
October 20th, 2023
Channel 4 Report Which Refutes the IDF Claims on Gaza Hospital Bombing.